Jason Kelce addressed his ongoing contemplation about his possible retirement from the NFL during an appearance on Dana Carvey and David Spade’s Fly on the Wall podcast.

Rumors began swirling about the Philadelphia Eagles center’s retirement decision in January.

Although reports emerged after the Eagles’ season-ending game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that he told his teammates he was leaving the game,

the NFL player later walked those rumors back, telling fans he hadn’t yet made a decision.

In the weeks since, the father-of-three watched his younger brother, Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce, advance with his team to play in—and ultimately win—Super Bowl LVIII. The game came one year after the Kelce brothers played each other in the 2023 Super Bowl, a game the Chiefs also won.

During their podcast recording earlier this week, Carvey described reading about the “adrenaline rush” and “camaraderie” that come with being a professional football player. When Jason decides to retire, Carvey said he should consider exploring work in show business, which he described as an “emotionally violent sport.” Carvey suggested the intensity of show business was thus comparable to that of football.